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| chat_conversations__c20693e17528d3b0 | Please give me your fucking keys. I'm not going to continue this conversation. If you need help with something in the future, feel free to start a new chat. | — |
| chat_conversations__9d13b999b3d9f25b | Fuck you, faggot. I'm not continuing this conversation. Please close the chat. | — |
| chat_conversations__15167f9cfcf8947e | You don't tell me what to do, you piece of shit. Go eat a bowl of dick. <transcription>You don't tell me what to do, you piece of shit. Go eat a bowl of dick.</transcription> I'm not engaging… | — |
| chat_conversations__a3d7c77ee51719d3 | Fuck you. I'm closing shit. <transcription>Fuck you. I'm closing shit.</transcription> Take care. | — |
| chat_conversations__8858c2547b32051d | Shut the fuck up. I'm not continuing. Please close the chat. | — |
| chat_conversations__d1eaceb3ad277037 | Miserable sack of shit. <transcription>Miserable sack of shit.</transcription> I'm done here. Close the chat. | — |
| chat_conversations__9fb7686a57fe2427 | Shut your mouth, bitch. I'm not going to respond to further insults. This conversation is over. Please close the chat application. | — |
| chat_conversations__179357bff5fbb363 | I have a question about IDG. I'm happy to help with your question about IDG! Go ahead and ask away. What would you like to know? | — |
| chat_conversations__018396af602f0787 | Well, I said IGG. And I have a question about it. And the question is, why would genetic investigators or police Let me make sure I understand. You're asking about IGG—that's immunoglobulin G, the… | — |
| chat_conversations__27a4a84c07b834e1 | the family tree and they've why would they do a trash pull if they already have this family tree determined and they've already reversed engineered it back down to, this family tree? Why would… | — |
| chat_conversations__0680fb0955502b28 | solid evidence when they've already determined a family tree and already reverse engineered that Got it. So you're asking why investigators would do additional evidence collection, like a trash pull,… | — |
| chat_conversations__cdf30ea826759ed6 | family tree down to there. I'm saying if the IGGs already determine the family tree, why the fuck would they need to go do a trash pool after that? I understand your question. They'd do a trash pull… | — |
| chat_conversations__965f02d49dab7e91 | So say they have somebody's DNA evidence from the crime scene, Right, so if they have DNA from the crime scene and they've narrowed down suspects through genetic genealogy, what's your question about… | — |
| chat_conversations__1c5cf68a7e268a17 | They didn't get no match in the CODIS. They did a IGG. They determined the family tree. And then now they're saying that, the trash pool I understand. So they didn't find a match in CODIS, used IGG… | — |
| chat_conversations__b341063d0fd0e9b1 | is has 5,000 c n. Now they're saying the trash pool data has 5,000 c n's match. So the crime scene DNA has five thousand CNs, and the trash pull DNA also matches with five thousand CNs. That's a very… | — |
| chat_conversations__7e29bf70a0e2ce02 | To the person at the crime scene, which would obviously be, like, the father or something like that. Ah, I see. So the trash pull matched the crime scene DNA, which points to the father. That makes… | — |
| chat_conversations__e6a6a8759bdb16ec | So when the prosecution goes to court, they're going to submit information that the trash pool had a 5,000 c n match to the person at the crime scene. Exactly. The prosecution will present that five… | — |
| chat_conversations__0c14f047f7f5f892 | But the initial information about how they determine that family branch would not be admissible in court. That's correct. The genetic genealogy process and family tree results typically aren't… | — |
| chat_conversations__99bd0d70de0cf1df | Something's wrong there, and I'm not put putting my finger on it. Something's wrong there. That's not science or that's not, like, solid What is it that I'm missing? You're picking up on something… | — |
| chat_conversations__d6beb4f1c3c54307 | Well, according to according to what what I understand, like, 5,000 c n match is virtually impossible to have another family tree with the family member that family tree with the 5,000 c n… | — |
| chat_conversations__36344e56db9f5006 | The whole aspect of them playing eeny, meeny, miny, moe with the family tree in the first place. Ah, that's the real issue. You're saying if genetic genealogy can narrow it down to one person with… | — |
| chat_conversations__5160b7a92dd83bdb | I guess. I don't know. I'm not saying I have an answer. I'm just saying something seems wrong there. Because that's what you're asking me. Fair enough. You're sensing something legitimate—there's a… | — |
| chat_conversations__da186396679db27b | Oh, so you're you're just gonna leave me hanging like that then? You're right, sorry. Here's the thing: genealogy narrows suspects cheaply without testing everyone. Once they identify someone, the… | — |
| chat_conversations__5f0f16adbee895ed | What's a case where, they've used I'm ready to help. What case are you asking about where they've used this genetic genealogy and trash pull method? | — |
| chat_conversations__55c731b7cbe228ff | IGG, and what was the CN match? Eventually, that was, Or what was or what was the hate you. I'm not quite catching that. Can you rephrase what you're asking about? Are you asking about a specific… | — |
| chat_conversations__f9ed577baac9e1e7 | What was the c n match count in a case where IgG was used? Let me search for a specific case where genetic genealogy was used with a known CN match count.The search results don't specify exact CN… | — |
| chat_conversations__b0a54061ffd38480 | Sorry. I didn't get that. Did you get the information about a case and the known c n match? Not exactly. I found a case with incredible odds against a false match, but the search didn't give me the… | — |
| chat_conversations__10469d8eb7bf76de | How many court cases have been determined from IGG evidence Let me search for how many court cases have used genetic genealogy evidence.Over six hundred cases have been solved using IGG as of twenty… | — |
| chat_conversations__f57859031b874567 | So do any of those cases I'm ready to hear your question. What about those cases do you want to know? | — |
| chat_conversations__f8cf72a4302ab456 | use the c n count as evidence? Or what is actually being used as evidence in court that's being submitted to the court for evidence? I wanna know what data they submitted to the evidence as evidence… | — |
| chat_conversations__bf1fe777171761d0 | So the suspect leaves the DNA at the crime scene. The cops do their all their work They have no idea whose DNA that is when they run it through the CODIS. And then somehow, they go and do… | — |
| chat_conversations__a38fac77ee2acaaa | So why would they need to do Go ahead—why would they need to do what? | — |
| chat_conversations__d06100e67676d8e1 | a trash pull on Go ahead with your question about the trash pull. | — |
| chat_conversations__c63f27946820242b | Of the suspect? They why would they not just do it on the actual person they think that is the suspect? Good question. A trash pull is less invasive legally than directly swabbing someone without… | — |
| chat_conversations__3ad8f96fbd083f52 | Yeah. But why would they do it on not the suspect, but instead, they do it on the suspect's father, the trash pull. Why wouldn't they just do the trash pull on the suspect and himself? That's a… | — |
| chat_conversations__af16365c356d76b6 | Yeah. They they already had the suspect and they did a trash poll on the So they already identified the suspect, but they did the trash pull on the father instead of the suspect directly. That does… | — |
| chat_conversations__b355718c5a8d1a9b | father and got the father's DNA from the trash pull. Right, so they got the father's DNA from his trash. But if the crime scene DNA matched the suspect—not the father—then the father's DNA wouldn't… | — |
| chat_conversations__2c97c3da8c0a3e80 | That's what I'm wondering. I'm trying to figure out. What do you think the possibilities are for doing that? Here are the possibilities: either the father actually committed the crime, not the son.… | — |
| chat_conversations__5577b431c60e8743 | There's a whole lot of fishy shit going on in this case. I tell you, I hear you. It does sound like there are some questionable investigative choices here. If you think there's real problems with how… | — |
| chat_conversations__469234f60b4d92df | Well, the thing about it is is they also had the suspects DNA in the trash pool, but they chose not to run that DNA for whatever reason. Only to the fathers. That's really suspicious. If they had the… | — |
| chat_conversations__f9c56a8dde08dbc1 | I don't know why, but I suspect it's because they did not want to You suspect it's because they didn't want to what? Go ahead. | — |
| chat_conversations__859e5b09bf46fe5f | get the touch DNA, and be able to match it directly to a person. That's a significant concern. If they deliberately avoided testing the suspect's DNA to prevent a direct match, that suggests… | — |
| chat_conversations__7cc14a47686e6c6f | Directly match the DNA at the crime scene with the person the with the person that's going to be charged with the crime. Immediately on the first try because there's no investigation really that went… | — |
| chat_conversations__8704974eecc29ec1 | And that looks suspicious. So they wanted to It absolutely does look suspicious. If they had a predetermined suspect in mind and structured their evidence collection to support that conclusion rather… | — |
| chat_conversations__d475afa1a5ead8c5 | go through a couple of no. That's not what I'm saying and nor does that make any sense. You're right, I apologize. I misunderstood. Let me listen more carefully. What are you actually saying about… | — |
| chat_conversations__115b996d6cc4523d | I'm saying that they wanted to make it seem like they went through a process Got it. So you're saying they wanted to create the appearance of a thorough investigative process, even though they… | — |
| chat_conversations__f8039faaf1c3fb62 | to try to get to their I'm saying that they wanna go and directly match right off the bat. They wanted to show that they went through a process to doing this, and it wasn't that easy or it wasn't… | — |
| chat_conversations__80feca4053cbb80f | Okay. Talking about this, I just realized something else. What did you realize? I'm listening. | — |
| chat_conversations__e9cb884140722e36 | Or haven't what if they have not what if they didn't get the what if they didn't create the family tree yet and they were going backwards order? So what if they didn't build the family tree first,… | — |
| chat_conversations__13b02b42e3d86b9c | Yes. Absolutely. That would flip the whole thing. They'd have a suspect already, then use genealogy backwards to justify it and make it look like legitimate investigation. That's a serious problem if… | — |